I mean aren't we just so awesome? I mean sure we get made fun of by the other frames cause of our plain skills in the lower levels but then they start kissing our ass in a higher levels like Pluto when we're reviving their fragile and delicate asses standing in a cluster rape of moas~
I mean we do require a higher mastery rank than other warframes to be obtained, and that usually says something.
To be honest Rhino doesn't have anyhing that makes him capable of doing things that other Warframes can't. It has high armor? So do Frost. It can be indestructible for a while? Trinity does it even better. Rhino Stomp that can send enemies into the air making them harmless? Why not just kill them with Blade Storm? Debate about what Warframe is the best is in my opinion pointless. Oh and Rhino has no support skills ^.^
Though i feel offended by some sentences because i prefer frost, i will answer rhino is just a straight forward warframe that surpasses the other warframes ( slightly for frost ) in defence. But if you are not one of those who just rush to attack without any strategies, then i would recommend another warframe, like loki, ash or of course frost ;)
Frost is the one I wanted to start with, though I tried out rhino while I waited for enough people to actually kill Krill reliably. And rhino wasn't bad just kinda boring to me.
No support skills? Stomp and blast make all enemies harmless for a while. Iron skin can also be used to be a shield for teammates reviving other teammates, and other things like that. Rhino is a jack of all trades. Can't do nothin' about that. <3 Rhino.
Also, I played Loki while I was getting Rhino, and so I was on Pluto a lot of the time, farming Rubedo and credits. I kept dying repeatedly to Chargers and Moas. ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
Shonoun wrote: Also, I played Loki while I was getting Rhino, and so I was on Pluto a lot of the time, farming Rubedo and credits. I kept dying repeatedly to Chargers and Moas. ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
And who came back into that huge ugly crowd of mobs that no one dairs to tread with all the leech ospreys and etc to revive you? Rhino did. THEN HE RHINO STOMPED AND KILLED ALL THEM BASTARDS AS YOU ESCAPED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
And I doubt Frost would waste his precious energy to use snow globe to save you~
Iron Skin is far more spammable and snow globe is probably the only skill that makes Frost slightly better than Rhino, though most of his other skills become useless in Pluto.
of course you will die using loki shonoun, he has one of the weakest defences. you must be really experienced to use loki, but let's not forget his decoy ability that can be useful to run away or his invisibility that gives you free CRITICAL HITS ;) but did you try other warframes ? let's say .... FROST ?
There's a reason why they put Loki as one of the 3 starter characters that you use, you will find Loki having a very hard time in a defense mission on Pluto. But then Nyx came and saved the day and made things easier~ Got up to wave 20 on the infested mission~
Loki can beast in defence, I play Loki and you just need to spam decoy to whichever side has the highest amount of mobs, use Invisibility and go full ninja with whatever you can deal the most damage with, I admit that Rhino is good but it simply matters on the player's style
It's all about playstyle, people just have to choose the Warframe they like, because in my opinion, once you have played enough time, this game is easy, with all warframe.
Zarozian wrote: We'll see once you all reaach Pluto~
Well, all pluto missions can be achieved with all warframes, even without abilities/sentinels and on solo mode. The only things is about endless defense, but in a game where you play space ninja, it's sad you have to defend a cryopod in a frosty outerdoor location versus infested.
Both true! But when winning finally comes down to whoever lasts the longest, especially in defense, only two Warframes will survive but once it's finally just the Toxic Ancients coming at you, then it narrows it all back down to Rhino and his one single ability that can get him and his team very far.
Correction! Two abilities! I almost forgot Rhino Stomp takes the enemy out of battle and suspends them in mid-air for around 19 seconds buying time to reload and revive everyone quickly as well as keeping the enemies off the cryopod allowing it time to regenerate it's shields .
Haha~ And to think I almost forgot about Rhino Stomp~ Maybe it's the lack of creativity in the name....
You forgot something. you know, if all your team is dead, then whatever you are defending is probably already destroyed ;), and there is a lot better warframes for attack than rhino.
I saw~ Again very impressive~ But it sacrificed too much for the sake of having higher shields and hp as I stated in the comment below your photo~ But still a very good achievement~
I know how hard it is to get Redirection that high~ But I considered everything else as well to make my Rhino better overall~
Akram-The-Reaper-Panda wrote: You forgot something. you know, if all your team is dead, then whatever you are defending is probably already destroyed ;), and there is a lot better warframes for attack than rhino.
Well if the whole party was Rhino then there would be no problem~ Maybe a whole party of Rhinos and one Trinity~ Imagine that. Actually let's make it happen.
Zarozian wrote: I saw~ Again very impressive~ But it sacrificed too much for the sake of having higher shields and hp as I stated in the comment below your photo~ But still a very good achievement~
I know how hard it is to get Redirection that high~ But I considered everything else as well to make my Rhino better overall~
At Rhino page you said you use Rush, Streamline, Flow, Marathon? All maxed here so i think we have to go back to discussion about the usefulness of their abilities
Not all the time, each Warframe have their own pros and cons, Rhino's just happen to be very direct compared to other Warframes (maybe except Excaliber as his is also very easy to see)
As someone who has both rhino and frost... Rhino is my go to for general mission clearing and boss runs. Sure trinity has an invuln but its no where near as good for a boss run. Level up your stuff and you can keep iron skin on the entire time no problem.
Frost on the other hand is my prefrence for defense missions. He just takes a lot more to level up mod wise to make him worth it. Also frost just looks cooler IMO :)
this debate makes me laugh. becasue u know whats funny my MAG has had to revive rhinos before a few times. rhinos are for people that like to blast into the pack and need support players to keep them alive they cant do it all on their own. i personally like the play of the MAG because it is both support and can be a tank. a MAG with amphis is just evil. time to get a bolter and make it that much better. btw a fully lvled up crush is great to play right before reviving the Rhino :)
Zarozian wrote: I saw~ Again very impressive~ But it sacrificed too much for the sake of having higher shields and hp as I stated in the comment below your photo~ But still a very good achievement~
I know how hard it is to get Redirection that high~ But I considered everything else as well to make my Rhino better overall~
At Rhino page you said you use Rush, Streamline, Flow, Marathon? All maxed here so i think we have to go back to discussion about the usefulness of their abilities
I have:
Rhino Charge, Iron Skin, Radial Blast, Rhino Stomp, Flow, Redirection, Vitality, Marathon, Rush, and Fast Deflection.
All maxed or closed to max except for Marathon and Rush.. If I wanted I could remove Rhino Charge and completely max out everything, but I like my Rhino charge cause it helps we skip through levels like that part where we can jump off the bridge a charge to the other side without going all the way around to take the elevator down.
I feel that my Rhino is still superior to your Frost or whoever's Frost it is~
I think people prefer Frost because hes more stylish looking, while Rhino here looks plain, but hey I'm the type of person who chooses "performance" and "power" over "appearances".
As I said before, Frost is nothing without his pretty Snow Globe skill.
The only Warframe that could be better than Rhino is Excalibur, as for Frost I would put him under Trinity.
24.113.72.55 wrote: this debate makes me laugh. becasue u know whats funny my MAG has had to revive rhinos before a few times. rhinos are for people that like to blast into the pack and need support players to keep them alive they cant do it all on their own. i personally like the play of the MAG because it is both support and can be a tank. a MAG with amphis is just evil. time to get a bolter and make it that much better. btw a fully lvled up crush is great to play right before reviving the Rhino :)
FOOL! THOSE RHINOS WILL GROW! THEY WILL BE SUPERIOR IN THE END!
According to the picture you posted, your vitality and redirection aren't close to max.
Frost's and Rhino's shields, armor, speed and health are equals.
As for frost, his avalanch surpasses rhino's stomp, and it deals double the damage to the shields of enemies.
The snow globe slows enemies down ( good for offense ) and blocks bullets from the outside, it can protect you AND your teammates, and it lasts 30 seconds which is double the time of iron skin.
Rhino's Radial blast is a weaker version of his stomp, so what's the point ( except when you're short on energy ), while ice wave is made to hit enemies in a line. So it's good when enemies aren't surrounding you but in a line in front of you.
Frost freeze can stop enemies from moving for 10 seconds if they aren't hit, so it's good when dealing with multiple enemies and one of them is so strong, so you freeze him, deal with the others, and then get bakc to him ( Like a toxic or disrupter ancient ).
And then you say : " I feel that my Rhino is still superior to your Frost or whoever's Frost it is~ "
And if you're gonna skip through levels why using rhino ? why not just loki, he is the fastest and he has decoy and invisibility.
According to the picture you posted, your vitality and redirection aren't close to max.
Frost's and Rhino's shields, armor, speed and health are equals.
As for frost, his avalanch surpasses rhino's stomp, and it deals double the damage to the shields of enemies.
The snow globe slows enemies down ( good for offense ) and blocks bullets from the outside, it can protect you AND your teammates, and it lasts 30 seconds which is double the time of iron skin.
Rhino's Radial blast is a weaker version of his stomp, so what's the point ( except when you're short on energy ), while ice wave is made to hit enemies in a line. So it's good when enemies aren't surrounding you but in a line in front of you.
Frost freeze can stop enemies from moving for 10 seconds if they aren't hit, so it's good when dealing with multiple enemies and one of them is so strong, so you freeze him, deal with the others, and then get bakc to him ( Like a toxic or disrupter ancient ).
And then you say : " I feel that my Rhino is still superior to your Frost or whoever's Frost it is~ "
And if you're gonna skip through levels why using rhino ? why not just loki, he is the fastest and he has decoy and invisibility.
Rhino Stomp has a huge radius when maxed out and it can take much more enemies out of battle for 19 seconds and yes my redirection is only 1 level below yours and 2 levels from being maxed and my mods level has increased since then. 605 HP now~
And why deflect bullets when you can take all the enemies out of battle completely and one shot them all with the HEK? And with a pool of 300 energy I bet I can continuously use my skills more than you can with your Snow Globe and Avalanche and I doubt you have room for anything else since Frost doesn't have two defensive polarities like Rhino.
And I hardly need Vitality due to how i have 90% more faster shield regen and a larger pool of energy to protect me from the only thing that comes close to scratching me: Toxic Ancients. And my Rhino is faster than your frost as well and it has access to all it's skills.
Face it. Your Frost is still flimsy compared to my Rhino even with slightly higher shields and health!
Zarozian wrote: plain, but hey I'm the type of person who chooses "performance" and "power" over "appearances".
As I said before, Frost is nothing without his pretty Snow Globe skill.
Tryharders. About frost, I find ice blast better than Radial Boom, and avalanche a different use than Stomp.
+1 for this Panda.
HA! It's only useful if enemies convieniently form a conga line and run at you! Which is most likely never thus that skill is only useful in tunnels or narrow passages! Sure you can melee them but it breaks as soon as one of your teamates fire a single bullet at it!
And Loki is a coward. Just wanted to throw that in there for no reason at all. Just like how you threw Loki in here, in a battle between tanks. >.>
And I am not skipping through levels. I am rushing into the enemies! Like Kratos into a pile of doomed gods and women! Beowulf into a pile of demons and whores!
Killing everything before everyone else gets here!
Oo The lack of common sence in those comments gave me a trauma :p
Listen amigo :
1-Avalanche have a huge radius too - And how can it take more enemies than avalanche ? Care to explain more ?
2-Why do you compare your rhino to my frost ? It's a general comparison between the two warframes, not between you and me
3-No, you won't be able to use iron skin more than snow globe, because iron skin stays at max for 15 seconds, while snow globe stays for 30 seconds, so i can stay with snow globe more than you. Because iron skin stays 1/2 the time of snow globe, while it costs the same. And you can use it to protect your teammates too.
4-You're using a super-charged rhino, and a super-charged frost can take everything too, plus, i have the - polarity, and i can use it too.
5-What ? Frost and Rhino have the same speed, what are you talking about ?
6-Loki is a coward ? Oo He is smart, not like rhino, and he is more useful in a team, especially on defence missions. And i talked about loki because you said you skip through levels.
7-Killing everything before anyone gets ther ? if you talk about speed, loki is faster, so he'll get there before you, and volt's "SPEED" abillity is better and i think faster too, and if you use energy to move faster, i don't know what to say then.
8-Excalibur may be better than rhino ? You mean Rhino>Excalibur>Trinity>Frost ? it should be Frost>Rhino>Trinity, and excalibur is for noobs.
Akram-The-Reaper-Panda wrote: Oo The lack of common sence in those comments gave me a trauma :p
Listen amigo :
1-Avalanche have a huge radius too - And how can it take more enemies than avalanche ? Care to explain more ?
2-Why do you compare your rhino to my frost ? It's a general comparison between the two warframes, not between you and me
3-No, you won't be able to use iron skin more than snow globe, because iron skin stays at max for 15 seconds, while snow globe stays for 30 seconds, so i can stay with snow globe more than you. Because iron skin stays 1/2 the time of snow globe, while it costs the same. And you can use it to protect your teammates too.
4-You're using a super-charged rhino, and a super-charged frost can take everything too, plus, i have the - polarity, and i can use it too.
5-What ? Frost and Rhino have the same speed, what are you talking about ?
6-Loki is a coward ? Oo He is smart, not like rhino, and he is more useful in a team, especially on defence missions. And i talked about loki because you said you skip through levels.
7-Killing everything before anyone gets ther ? if you talk about speed, loki is faster, so he'll get there before you, and volt's "SPEED" abillity is better and i think faster too, and if you use energy to move faster, i don't know what to say then.
8-Excalibur may be better than rhino ? You mean Rhino>Excalibur>Trinity>Frost ? it should be Frost>Rhino>Trinity, and excalibur is for noobs.
1) Rhino Stomps radius is much larger than Avalanche's, Rhino is built to handle massive amounts of enemies.
2)If we're talking about the Warframes then Frost is no better than Ember, only difference that Frost has slightly more armor and shields but Ember deals far more damage.
3)Even so your snow globe only slows the enemies inside but it sure as hell won't stop the orange moas from flipping your ass over from outside constantly stopping you from doing anything else while your precious snow globe runs out and everything starts raping you.
4)What you can't tell the difference between D and ---? Rhino can get an extra mod like Fast Deflection to max and still have more room to max out Vitality and Redirection and even Steel Fiber even though no one uses that much and the D type slot is more useful and beneficial than the --- especially when Rhino has two of them just like Trinity.
5) Rhino Charge for the win~
6) Loki isn't as smart as he looks, his brain is smaller than the size of his hammer head helmet. Loki is completely useless in Pluto and just like what you said with Excalibur, Loki is for noobs as well.
7) Loki can't take on multiple enemies at once, I basically killed everything while Loki was taking his sweet time trying to avoid getting hit and taking cover when hes dying, all Loki can do on Pluto is run full speed to his doom on defense missions and then it will force Rhino to have to smash his way through all the enemies to make his way to where Loki is to revive his fragile and delicate ass.
8) My bad~ I meant Excalibur PRIME or PRINCIPAL in your language~ Cause hes gonna educate your ass who can't even spell "sense" right! Also Trinity makes a better tank than Frost she just lacks the armor! But hey! Shes the only other warframe that has two D type polarity slots! So maybe shes the real "support tank" and Frost is just some damage dealer that just so happens to have a little more armor than the other elemental frames~
Man I'm about to become more arrogant by every post they make, if someone with a higher level intelligence doesn't show up to put up reasonable and logical arguement with me to prove that I'm wrong.
Zarozian wrote: Man I'm about to become more arrogant by every post they make, if someone with a higher level intelligence doesn't show up to put up reasonable and logical arguement with me to prove that I'm wrong.
I'm pretty sure I could. You were right about most things on the dual ether and the dual heat swords but as for Frost vs Rhino, if you look at all warframes closely you can see that they are all balanced and equal in a way especially frost and rhino but i'm just having a really hard time coming up with good statements to debate with you at the moment.
Zarozian wrote: Man I'm about to become more arrogant by every post they make, if someone with a higher level intelligence doesn't show up to put up reasonable and logical arguement with me to prove that I'm wrong.
I'm pretty sure I could. You were right about most things on the dual ether and the dual heat swords but as for Frost vs Rhino, if you look at all warframes closely you can see that they are all balanced and equal in a way especially frost and rhino but i'm just having a really hard time coming up with good statements to debate with you at the moment.
Just admit defeat already~ >.>
What the hell do I have to do to shatter your fighting spirit and win this arguement and prove that Rhino is better than Frost? >.>
My god Zarozian you haven't even used other Warframes so you practically can't even participate in this discussion since you don't have any experience with Warframes other than Rhino and Excalibur
Akram-The-Reaper-Panda wrote: This is getting ugly you know, i am trying to hold my self from getting angry and writing a comment full of insults after the one you wrote.
Bottom line,
Frost stats = Rhino's start
Frost's abillities > Rhino's abillities
This topic is wrong, rhinos aren't the best warframes.
Lol~ Most likely cause you can't come up with one that's creative and constructive enough while remaining true, and because of this at the same time you also acknowledge that there are more upsides to Rhino than there are with Frost.
There's no point is saying Frost's abilities > Rhino's abilities if you can't even explain why~
You guys are both completely on the brink of giving up and surrendering aren't you?
Imargam wrote: My god Zarozian you haven't even used other Warframes so you practically can't even participate in this discussion since you don't have any experience with Warframes other than Rhino and Excalibur
My oh my~ Starting to insult the person now? I can say you haven't used the Rhino warframe and that's pratically why you can't participate in this discussion~
My oh my~ Starting to insult the person now? I can say you haven't used the Rhino warframe and that's pratically why you can't participate in this discussion~
Check my Warframe profile. I really do have experience
My oh my~ Starting to insult the person now? I can say you haven't used the Rhino warframe and that's pratically why you can't participate in this discussion~
Check my Warframe profile. I really do have experience
Hmhmhmmm.....We'll have a contest. You and I will duo Palus/Pluto or Outer Terminus/Pluto and whoever scores more in damage and in kills will be the winner~
Oh my god~ I just had an even better idea! We will have 2 rhinos and frost on the same team!
And then we will have multiple cells in different defense mission compete against each other and take screenshots of their results and then we will see who did better!
FINALLY! A WAY FOR US TO SILENCE THOSE FROST ASS KISSERS ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Akram is not my buddy plus i don't feel like i had to prove you anything. I don't have a clan, i'm mostly solo player, a researcher and an admin. I'm here to give people knowledge they don't always have. I won't waste my time just because someone that can't even communicate in a civilized manner whant so. You wan't me to do something for you? First you have to get some respect here by making useful contributions and not just shallow talking.
Imargam wrote: Akram is not my buddy plus i don't feel like i had to prove you anything. I don't have a clan, i'm mostly solo player, a researcher and an admin. I'm here to give people knowledge they don't always have. I won't waste my time just because someone that can't even communicate in a civilized manner whant so. You wan't me to do something for you? First you have to get some respect here by making useful contributions and not just shallow talking.
Shallow talking?! Talk is cheap! Why not have a little fun in a simple contest?
I will be disappointed if you turn my fun challenge down~ I'm pretty sure others reading this would love to see who comes out on top~
This will be fun~
EVERYONE KUDOS ME IF YOU WANNA SEE IT HAPPEN!
Winning will feed and boost the morales of the Rhino lovers/users/abusers~
Well, I don't want to continue to reply to this thread, but Zazorian Rhino studborn, you're replying on civilized manners, you know you're making monstruous amount of posts just to say the same things and can't understand what we're saying?
I really like the way you introduce the kind of "LOLOL 1V1 NOOB I BEAT YOU" in a PvE game.
So my 2 cents since everyone is still going on about this.
Frost Freeze is ocaisonally usefull (heaviely shielded enemy the freeze does not wear off till you damage their health). I didn't really like Ice wave. Snowglobe everyone agrees it's great an entire team stands in it and slaughter the enemies with impunity. As you noted shockwave and ground pound style attack still go through, which brings me too my next point. Avanlanche it kills any non-heavy enemy and during the animation it freezes enemies.
Rhino Charge is high damage if you have a strong melee weapon and you aim it right. Freeze is basically just a long single target stun (whole team downed just freeze the boss and revive all of them).
So basically Rhino's Iron Skin is just one man invincibility, Frost's SnowGlobe is basically team invunerablity (anything that actualy gets inside is laughably slow) but not stun immunity.
Now on too ult's.
Rhino Stomp knocks everyone nearby down and slows them but does not do a lot of damage it's range is just a little bit bigger then Avalanche. Avanlanche does 1000 damage (more to shields) and freeze's them during the cast.
Finally the difference in polarity slots Rhino gets 2 defense slots which are very useful for just straight up tanking the damage. And Frost has 1 ulitity slot and 1 defense slot, the utility slot means a cheap streamline, flow, or reach.
So in summary both do basically the same thing but Frost is a bit more spamable utility, whereas Rhino is a bit more spamable damage. This makes it close but I think that Frost comes out ahead based on ability costs.
Leaving it here "Forever for future players of warframe to see" is like a giant billboard that says "Yes, the community here is full of the same kind of arrogant little brats you find everywhere online. No, you can't blacklist them from your games. Yes, you may place your face in your palm and sigh heavily."
Can't say much to that. However, how did this whole thing start again? I'm confident this topic was about how Rhino users believe the Rhino Warframes are the best, not a Rhino vs Frost topic, so could we at least try debating about other Warframes too? This thread is becoming very weird
After a while of thinking, I came to a conclusion. This post turned into an opinion on Rhino being best, and it turned into a full on competition of who is better: Frost or Rhino. Opinions are really hard to change, no matter what topic it is on. When someone sets their mind on one thing, you can't really remove that thing from their head and make them think something else so easily. It will take longer than it's worth, and it won't really help anyone at all, because it all ends up not being worth a pile of horse shit. Frost fans won't give up because they love Frost, and vice versa. This argument will never stop, because you can't simply change one's opinion about something they are so fixed on. We should stop this entirely, and just say that to Frost fans Frost is the best, and to Rhino fans Rhino is the best. Who really cares what others think now? They won't change. No matter how much proof is put into your opinion, the other people will think the complete opposite. If you took the time to actually read this, please give a kudos so we can just delete this thread and like whatever Warframe we want. Goodbye.
This discussion turned from civilized discussion to petty name-calling to "CHECK DIS OUT BRO MY CELESTIAL RAMASAMAKENSHIROHIBKITIKIWIKIMARUSANCHAN IS BETTER THAN YOUR CLAN ALSO LOOK ME UP I'VE GOT A 20:1 K/D RATION BRO AND IM TENTH PRESTIGE ON TOP OF THAT MY IGN IS xXxdark_blade_killer_blazeit_420xXx."
Concerning the class discussion, Rhino is obviously the best warframe because he is the MANLIEST warframe. Don't believe me? Allow me to detail:
1) Rhino Charge: You run into them so hard that they EXPLODE INTO FLESH CHUNKS FROM THE SHEER FORCE OF YOUR GARGANTUAN MUSCLE MASS CRASHING INTO THEIR BODY AT MACH 5
2) Iron Skin: Instead of trying some fancy technical bullet-dodging manuever, you just fucking TURN INTO SOLID STEEL AND NO-SELL THEIR SHITTY-ASS DOLLAR STORE BULLETS.
3) Radial Blast: I CAST FIST
4) Rhino Stomp: Instead of using some exaggerated description here. I'm just gonna give you the ingame description and let you decide. The Rhino stomps hard enough to disrupt time around him. You stomp time. YOU STOMP TIME. Frost can make ice? FUCK ICE, I CAN STOMP TIME.
So yeah, Rhino is the go-to frame for real men.
Also, Zarz, just a little tip, when you put a ~ at the end of just about everything you say for no reason, it pretty much undermines any legitimate points you may have made and generally serves no purpose in addition to looking pretty stupid. Just saiyan.
